Changes between Version 10 and Version 11 of poe


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10/01/2018 12:40:55 PM (2 months ago)
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Tim Harvey
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refactored page: added board specific table at top and switch/injector specific table at bottom, stripped out dated info and general cleanup

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    1414 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet
    1515
    16 == Online Shop ==
    17 [http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_73 Gateworks Shop POE]
    18 == Passive PoE ==
    1916
    20 Most of our products support what is typically referred to as 'Passive PoE' as power is applied to the same pins defined in 802.3af however the intelligent signalling/detection is not present.  We do this because 802.3af DC range is only 37-60V and our customers typically want lower ranges.
     17[=#gateworks]
     18== Gateworks PoE
     19Gateworks supports a variety of Power-over-Ethernet solutions depending on product family.
     20||= Family =||= Board =||= Supported =||= Notes =||
     21|| Newport  || GW640x  || 802.3af (J21), Passive^^^3^^^ (J22) || ||
     22||          || GW630x  || 802.3af (J19), Passive^^^3^^^ (J20) || ||
     23||          || GW620x  || 802.3af (J14), Passive^^^3^^^ (J16) || ||
     24||          || GW610x  || Passive^^^3^^^ || ||
     25|| ||
     26|| Ventana  || GW540x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     27||          || GW530x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     28||          || GW52xx  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     29||          || GW510x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     30||          || GW553x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     31||          || GW552x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     32||          || GW551x  || emulated half-rectified^^^3^^^ 802.3af || Jumper^^^1^^^ ||
     33|| ||
     34|| Laguna   || GW2388  || half-rectified^^^3^^^ Passive (both ports) || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     35||          || GW2386  || full-rectified emulated 802.3af || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     36||          || GW2387  || full-rectified emulated 802.3af || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     37||          || GW2391  || full-rectified emulated 802.3af || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     38||          || GW2380  || Passive^^^3^^^ (up to 42V) || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     39||          || GW2382  || Passive^^^3^^^ (up to 42V) || Jumper^^^2^^^ ||
     401. Jumper W1 selects passive (install) vs 802.3af (remove) voltage range
     412. Jumper W1 selects passive (ext) vs 802.3af (std) voltage range
     423. Half-rectified or Passive PoE on Gateworks boards assumes positive on blue pair, negative on brown pair. A cross-over cable can be used for devices using the opposite polarity
    2143
    22 Issues:
    23  * GW2350/GW2351 have the TVS array on the input side of the mags thus will short power to gnd if a GigE passive PoE is used on these 10/100mbps board
     44== Passive PoE
    2445
    25  === GW10022 ===
    26 10/100 Passive Injector
    27 ||= Pin =||= Description =||
    28 || 1     || TX+  ||
    29 || 2     || TX-  ||
    30 || 3     || RX+  ||
    31 || 4     || VDC+ ||
    32 || 5     || VDC+ ||
    33 || 6     || RX-  ||
    34 || 7     || VDC- ||
    35 || 8     || VDC- ||
    36  === GW10054 ===
    37 1 Amp Gigabit Injector
     46Most Gateworks products support what is typically referred to as 'Passive PoE' as power is applied to the same pins defined in 802.3af however the intelligent signalling/detection is not present.  We do this because 802.3af DC range is only 37-60V and our customers typically want lower ranges.
     47
     48See the [http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=70_73 Gateworks Online Shop for Passive PoE Injectors]
    3849
    3950
    40 
    41 == 802.3af ==
    42 802.3af is the 2003 standard for intelligent Power Over Ethernet.
     51== 802.3af
     52802.3af is a standard adopted in 2003 for intelligent Power Over Ethernet where a signature is required before the supply turns on voltage. This can be a safer option than passive PoE.
    4353
    4454Gateworks boards with true 802.3af support:
    45  - GW2357
     55 - Newport GW640x/GW630x/GW620x
    4656
    4757== Emulated 802.3af ==
    48 True 802.3af is costly and difficult to co-exist with passive PoE, so Gateworks designed a circuit that emulates it by providing the 'signature' needed to make an 802.3af PoE compliant switch enable power.
     58Originally, true 802.3af was costly and difficult to co-exist with passive PoE, so Gateworks designed a circuit that emulated it by providing the 'signature' needed to make an 802.3af PoE compliant switch enable power.
    4959
    5060While the 802.3 spec calls out the power pins explicitly it does not call out polarity because it also requires full rectification (which makes polarity a moot point). This created the fact that some products use one polarity and others use opposite with regards to + and - voltage rails (see here http://pinouts.ru/Net/poe_pinout.shtml). Some of our emulated 802.3af products do not have this full rectification for space reasons which can make them in-compatible with PoE on some devices without the use of a 'cross-over cable'.
    5161
    52 Gateworks Devices supporting this 'emulated' 802.3af:
    53 ||= GW BOARD =||= Full Rectification =||= Signature =||= Notes =||
    54 || GW2380     || no || no, passive only || Only supports passive voltages up to 42V ||
    55 || GW2382     || no || no, passive only || Only supports passive voltages up to 42V ||
    56 || GW2386     || yes || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (ext) vs 802.3af (std) voltage range ||
    57 || GW2387     || yes || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (ext) vs 802.3af (std) voltage range ||
    58 || GW2388     || no || no, passive only || Both Ethernet ports support passive PoE, use GW16090 for signature ||
    59 || GW2391     || yes || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (ext) vs 802.3af (std) voltage range ||
    60 || GW54xx     || no  || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (install) vs 802.3af (remove) voltage range ||
    61 || GW53xx     || no  || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (install) vs 802.3af (remove) voltage range ||
    62 || GW52xx     || no  || yes, 802.3af || Jumper W1 selects passive (install) vs 802.3af (remove) voltage range ||
    63 
    64 Some of the above products feature a jumper 'W1' which enables 802.3af emulation ULVO (under voltage lockout). This jumper needs to be in the correct position (or removed) see above table depending on the board and whether or not you want passive PoE or 802.3af emulation.
     62Refer to the [#gateworks table above] to find which boards use emulated 802.3af and note in the table that some of the above products feature a jumper 'W1' which enables 802.3af emulation ULVO (under voltage lockout). This jumper needs to be in the correct position (or removed) see above table depending on the board and whether or not you want passive PoE or 802.3af emulation.
    6563
    6664The following switch products use the opposite polarity that Gateworks uses and thus requires either a) a fully rectified emulation (see above), b) a crossover cable, c) a [http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=129 GW16090] revB+:
     
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    7270[=#gw16090]
    73 == GW16090 GigE 802.af/at to GigE passive PoE Adapter ==
    74 [http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=129 Purchase Here]
    75 The Gateworks GW16090 allows boards that have no 802.3af/at support to be powered by an 802.3af/at switch or boards that only support 802.3af to be powered by an 802.3at switch. The GW16090 uses the Maxim MAX5969B PoE PD Interface Controller which provides both 802.3af and 802.3at signatures to the PSE device. For more info on the controler see: http://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/power/switching-regulators/MAX5969B.html
     71== GW16090 GigE 802.af/at to GigE passive PoE Adapter
     72The Gateworks GW16090 ([http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=129 Purchase Here]) allows boards that have no 802.3af/at support to be powered by an 802.3af/at switch or boards that only support 802.3af to be powered by an 802.3at switch. The GW16090 uses the Maxim MAX5969B PoE PD Interface Controller which provides both 802.3af and 802.3at signatures to the PSE device. For more info on the controler see: http://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/power/switching-regulators/MAX5969B.html
    7673
    77 This product has been validated using:
    78  * Netgear FS-108P 10/100mbps switch (802.3af)
    79  * D-Link DGS-1008P 1000mbps (802.3af)
    80  * Cisco SG100D-08P 1000mbps (802.3af)
    81  * !ZyXel GS1910-24HP 1000mbps (802.3af/at)
     74For a list of products that the GW16090 has been validated with please see [#testing below].
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    8376Notes:
     
    9285
    9386[=#testing]
    94 = POE TESTING =
    95 802.3af test matrix:
    96 ||= GW BOARD   =||= Netgear FS108P (48V, 1.25A) =||= D-Link DGS-1008P (48V, 1.25A) =||= Cisco SG100D-08P (48V, 1.25A) =||= !ZyXel GS1910-24HP (50V, 10A) =||
    97 ||GW2357        || PASS               || PASS               ||                     || ||
    98 ||GW2386        || PASS               || PASS               ||                     || ||
    99 ||GW2387        || PASS               || PASS               || PASS                || PASS                ||
    100 ||GW2391        || PASS               || PASS               || PASS                || PASS                ||
    101 ||GW5XXX        || PASS               || requires crossover || requires crossover  || requires crossover  ||
    102 ||GW16090-D     || PASS               || PASS               || PASS                || PASS                ||
     87= PoE Testing
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     89||= Product =||= PoE Type =||= Notes =||
     90|| [https://www.netgear.com/support/product/FS108P.aspx Netgear FS108P 8port 10/100 Switch] || 802.3af || ||
     91|| [http://us.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/dgs-1008p/ D-Link DGS-1008P 8port GigE Switch] || 802.3af || Opposite Polarity^^^1^^^ ||
     92|| [https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/switches/sg-100d-08-8-port-gigabit-switch/model.html Cisco SG100D-08P 8port GigE Switch] || 802.3af || Opposite Polarity^^^1^^^ ||
     93|| [http://il.zyxel.com/us/en/products_services/xgs1910_gs1910_series.shtml?t=p !ZyXel GS1910-24HP 24port GigE Switch] || 802.3af || Opposite Polarity^^^1^^^ ||
     94|| ||
     95||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D2ST49/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ANVISION 48V 0.8A 802.3af/at Gigabit PoE Injector] || 802.3af/at || integrated power supply ||
     96||[https://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-43_TL-POE150S.html TP-LINK TL-PoE150S Gigabit 802.3af PoE Injector 48V 0.35A] || 802.3af || external supply provided ||
     97||[http://brashnetworks.com/product/brash-networks-bn-pe901g-high-power-802-3at-power-over-ethernet-poe-gigabit-power-injector/ Brash Networks BN-PE901G Gigabit 52V 30W 802.3at Poe Gigabit Power Injector]|| 802.3af/at || integrated power supply ||
     98|| [https://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70_73&product_id=35 GW10027 24V 0.8A Passive PoE Power Supply] || Passive || integrated power supply ||
     99|| [https://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70_73&product_id=47 GW10041 24V 2A Passive PoE Power Supply] || Passive || integrated power supply ||
     100||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DW99IPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ubiquiti Networks GP-A240-050G 24V 0.5A Gigabit Passive PoE Injector] || Passive || integrated power supply ||
     101|| [https://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70_73&product_id=33 GW10022 10/100 Ethernet Passive PoE Injector] || Passive || requires external power supply ||
     102|| [https://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70_73&product_id=17 GW10054 Gigabit Ethernet Passive POE Injector] || Passive || requires external power supply ||
     103 1. Requires cross-over cable if using with a Gateworks board on a port that has half-rectified passive PoE (ie Ventana)
    104104
    105 === Switches tested ===
    106  1. Netgear FS108P - 8 port 10/100 switch Standards:IEEE 802.3i  802.3u  802.3x  802.3af
    107  2. D-Link DGS-1008P - (requires cross-over for Ventana) Standards:IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.3af
    108  3. Cisco SG100D-08P - (requires cross-over for Ventana) Standards:IEEE 802.3/3u/3ab, IEEE 802.3af
    109  4. !ZyXel GS1910-24HP (requires cross-over for Ventana) Standards:IEEE 802.3af/at
    110 
    111 === POE Injector testing 
    112 
    113 GW5100
    114 
    115 ||= Tested =||= Injector name and amazon link =||= Gigabit =||= Cross Over Cable Supported =||= Passive =||= Validated =||= Works with GW16090 =||
    116 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D2ST49/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ANVISION 48V 0.8A Gigabit PoE Injector] || Yes || No || Yes || Yes || Yes ||
    117 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DW99IPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ubiquiti Networks POE-24-12W-G PoE Injector]|| No || No || No || No || No ||
    118 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PS9E5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 TP-LINK TL-PoE150S PoE Injector]|| No || No || No || No || No ||
    119 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075HDJSM7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Brash Networks BN-PE901G High 30W 802.3at Poe Gigabit Power Injector]|| No || No || No || No || No ||
    120  
    121 
    122 GW6100
    123 
    124 ||= Tested =||= Injector name and amazon link =||= Gigabit =||= Cross Over Cable Supported =||= Passive =||= Validated =||= Works with GW16090 =||
    125 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D2ST49/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ANVISION 48V 0.8A Gigabit PoE Injector] || Yes || No || Yes || Yes || Yes ||
    126 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DW99IPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ubiquiti Networks POE-24-12W-G PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    127 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PS9E5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 TP-LINK TL-PoE150S PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    128 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075HDJSM7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Brash Networks BN-PE901G High 30W 802.3at Poe Gigabit Power Injector]|| No || No || No || No || No ||
    129 
    130 
    131 GW6300
    132 
    133 ||= Tested =||= Injector name and amazon link =||= Gigabit =||= Cross Over Cable Supported =||= Passive =||= Validated =||= Works with GW16090 =||
    134 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D2ST49/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ANVISION 48V 0.8A Gigabit PoE Injector] || Yes || Yes || Yes || Yes || Yes ||
    135 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DW99IPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ubiquiti Networks POE-24-12W-G PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    136 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PS9E5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 TP-LINK TL-PoE150S PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    137 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075HDJSM7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Brash Networks BN-PE901G High 30W 802.3at Poe Gigabit Power Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    138 
    139 
    140 GW5300
    141 
    142 ||= Tested =||= Injector name and amazon link =||= Gigabit =||= Cross Over Cable Supported =||= Passive =||= Validated =||= Works with GW16090 =||
    143 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D2ST49/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ANVISION 48V 0.8A Gigabit PoE Injector] || Yes || Yes || Yes || Yes || Yes ||
    144 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DW99IPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Ubiquiti Networks POE-24-12W-G PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    145 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PS9E5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 TP-LINK TL-PoE150S PoE Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||
    146 || Yes ||[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075HDJSM7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Brash Networks BN-PE901G High 30W 802.3at Poe Gigabit Power Injector] || No || No || No || No || No ||